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| Haprog | I've made a simple fiddle that fails in IE8 and older with a javascript error when using the html5shiv and jquery 1.7.2 or 1.7.1, but works on IE9 and other browsers. http://fiddle.jshell.net/Haprog/5MnDG/show/ Anyone know if there's a bug report made for this? I suspect it has something to do with: http://bugs.jquery.com/ticket/6485 or http://bugs.jquery.com/ticket/10501 but I'm not sure. | 07:01 |
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| mikesherov | . | 08:48 |
| mikesherov | ?woah | 08:49 |
| bot-t | Mind Blown Conspiracy Keanu: http://troll.me/2011/12/20/conspiracy-keanu/mind-blown-4/ | 08:49 |
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| rwaldron | ajpiano ? | 09:05 |
| socialhapy | ★ Tweet from jquery: jQuery Bowling Night in NoVa! Join us for a night of fun! http://t.co/dZqExdHN ★ http://bit.ly/H7r1Kb | 09:06 |
| ajpiano | sup | 09:06 |
| rwaldron | can you open the meeting? | 09:06 |
| rwaldron | :) | 09:06 |
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| rwaldron | timmywil mikesherov gnarf ajpiano danheberden jaubourg meeting time please | 09:10 |
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| gibson042 | . | 09:57 |
| Haprog | I'll try my luck reposting what I posted earlier in case someone didn't notice it before...: | 09:59 |
| Haprog | I've made a simple fiddle that fails in IE8 and older with a javascript error when using the html5shiv and jquery 1.7.2 or 1.7.1, but works on IE9 and other browsers. http://fiddle.jshell.net/Haprog/5MnDG/show/ Anyone know if there's a bug report made for this? I suspect it has something to do with: http://bugs.jquery.com/ticket/6485 or http://bugs.jquery.com/ticket/10501 but I'm not sure. | 09:59 |
| Haprog | I was working on an AJAX application that completely stopped working on IE8 and older because of this issue, before I figured out what was the cause and found the workaround that's mentioned in the JS comments of that fiddle. | 10:01 |
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| Haprog | Is this a known issue or should I make a bug report? | 10:05 |
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| Haprog | And I thought I wouldn't need to worry about HTML5 AJAX issues with IE anymore since jQuery 1.7. I guess some things have been fixed/enhanced but this issue still persists. | 10:09 |
| ajpiano | Haprog: have you checked on the jquery (edge) version | 10:10 |
| Haprog | nope. I could do that though | 10:12 |
| ajpiano | do so and then if it is still broken, create a bug report | 10:12 |
| Haprog | I forgot about edge. I'll test it soon. | 10:12 |
| Haprog | problem persist on edge | 10:14 |
| Haprog | http://fiddle.jshell.net/Haprog/5MnDG/8/show/ | 10:14 |
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| Haprog | ticket created. http://bugs.jquery.com/ticket/11521 please discuss if you know something I don't. | 11:10 |
| socialhapy | ★ Tweet from jquerymobile: We're looking at how to bring back the original slide transition w/o fade for 1.1 and are hoping to land this for RC2: http://t.co/PumZkrR5 ★ http://bit.ly/H9Z4wB | 11:15 |
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| socialhapy | ★ Tweet from jquerymobile: We've been listening to everyone's great feedback from 1.1RC1 and have been hard at work making a few changes I think you'll all like. ★ http://bit.ly/GTRANX | 11:24 |
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| socialhapy | ★ Tweet from jquerymobile: In RC2, we added an optional polyfill for fixed headers in iOS4, working now on supporting the older slide transition style. Worth the wait! ★ http://bit.ly/GQNV8Z | 11:26 |
| rwaldron | ajpiano I just pinged jdalton for assistance on the 11521 | 11:26 |
| ajpiano | nice | 11:26 |
| ajpiano | he never met a nut he didn't like to crack | 11:26 |
| ajpiano | rwaldron: jonathanneal just started a job today | 11:27 |
| ajpiano | as like | 11:27 |
| ajpiano | full time open source researcher at liferay | 11:27 |
| rwaldron | well, he wrote most of the latest html5shiv | 11:27 |
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| rwaldron | cool | 11:27 |
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| snover | what is an “open source researcher”? | 11:55 |
| ajpiano | ask him? | 11:56 |
| rwaldron | a guy that spends time figuring out how to re-define document methods with longer method names then they already have | 11:59 |
| rwaldron | snover ^ | 11:59 |
| Haprog | rwaldron: Thanks for the feedback on #11521 Works with the html5shiv edge version :) | 11:59 |
| Haprog | you are awesome | 11:59 |
| rwaldron | Haprog np - but dont thank me! thank jdalton | 11:59 |
| snover | rwaldron: thanks | 11:59 |
| rwaldron | Haprog: "/msg jdalton thanks for the html5shiv!" | 12:00 |
| rwaldron | :) | 12:00 |
| Haprog | rwaldron: sure :) | 12:00 |
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| gnarf | damnit, you guys are gonna make me pack my bowling ball??? | 13:03 |
| gnarf | :) | 13:03 |
| ajpiano | wait, are you *way* better than everyone else now or something | 13:06 |
| gnarf | i haven't bowled in years - but i carry a ~180 average | 13:08 |
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| bigbluehat | rwaldron: I'd like to comment on https://github.com/jquery/jquery/pull/716 can you re-open comments? | 14:01 |
| socialhapy | ★ Pull request on jquery by BigBlueHat (5h, 14m ago): added Shiv check so show/hide work with Modernizr | 14:01 |
| bigbluehat | switching to using a class doesn't fix the real issue: http://jsfiddle.net/BigBlueHat/mLLL5/ | 14:02 |
| bigbluehat | rwaldron: comment posted here as GH comments are still locked for that issue: http://bugs.jquery.com/ticket/11520#comment:2 | 14:17 |
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| mikesherov | rwaldron: you here? | 14:32 |
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| mikesherov | looks like we were wrong about that edge case: http://bugs.jquery.com/ticket/11520 | 14:32 |
| mikesherov | I made a reduced test case: http://jsfiddle.net/mLLL5/2/ | 14:32 |
| bigbluehat | mikesherov: thanks for jumping on this | 14:33 |
| bigbluehat | also, nice test case :) | 14:33 |
| * bigbluehat will use Firebug Lite in future | 14:33 | |
| mikesherov | yeah, it clearly demonstrates what's going on | 14:33 |
| mikesherov | well, it's just that your test case provided an easy red herring | 14:33 |
| mikesherov | so we all assumed it was that | 14:34 |
| bigbluehat | ah, what was that? | 14:34 |
| bigbluehat | the article{display:none} bit? | 14:34 |
| mikesherov | yeah | 14:34 |
| mikesherov | I mean, the `article: none` would definitely also cause that | 14:34 |
| bigbluehat | yeah, didn't realize it'd throw it off like that...makes sense, though | 14:35 |
| bigbluehat | I've switched my code to use .hide (using Bootstrap) | 14:35 |
| bigbluehat | I'm also happy to clean up my patch or do other work on getting this sorted, if that's at all helpful | 14:35 |
| bigbluehat | just let me know :) | 14:35 |
| mikesherov | Yeah, I can tell you that detecting modernizr and specifically working around that won't get merged | 14:36 |
| bigbluehat | yeah, didn't think so, actually | 14:36 |
| bigbluehat | just wasn't sure how to come at the problem differently | 14:36 |
| mikesherov | The solution will most likely involve fixing the first console.log to do the right thing | 14:36 |
| bigbluehat | gotcha. | 14:37 |
| mikesherov | namely: jQuery("<article/>").appendTo(document.body).css("display") should return block; | 14:37 |
| bigbluehat | right. | 14:37 |
| mikesherov | if you can navigate that code, and get that to work, AWESOME | 14:37 |
| bigbluehat | :) I'll definitely muck into it again tomorrow | 14:37 |
| * bigbluehat has been summoned to dinner | 14:38 | |
| bigbluehat | thanks for jumping in on this mikesherov | 14:38 |
| mikesherov | Enjoy dinner | 14:38 |
| bigbluehat | will do. | 14:38 |
| mikesherov | thanks for being persistent! | 14:38 |
| bigbluehat | happy to! | 14:38 |
| bigbluehat | l8rs | 14:38 |
| mikesherov | later | 14:38 |
| mikesherov | bot-t: tell rwaldron that he is handsome and oh yeah we were wrong about that edge case: http://bugs.jquery.com/ticket/11520 http://jsfiddle.net/mLLL5/2/ | 14:40 |
| bot-t | mikesherov, Okay. | 14:40 |
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| rwaldron | mikesherov | 14:50 |
| bot-t | (10 mins 8 secs ago) <mikesherov> tell rwaldron that he is handsome and oh yeah we were wrong about that edge case: http://bugs.jquery.com/ticket/11520 http://jsfiddle.net/mLLL5/2/ | 14:50 |
| rwaldron | stop encouraging bogus tickets | 14:50 |
| rwaldron | http://jsfiddle.net/rwaldron/mLLL5/5/show/light | 14:50 |
| rwaldron | that ticket and subsequently your fiddle are all using the broken html5shiv | 14:51 |
| rwaldron | its a known issue that has been fixed by html5shiv devs | 14:51 |
| rwaldron | ?tell mikesherov see all of the above. | 14:51 |
| bot-t | rwaldron, Okay. | 14:51 |
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| DaveMethvin | geez, who turned on the tractor beam for the bug tracker today? rwaldron? sindresorhus? | 15:03 |
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| Eviltwin | I decided to make a new bug for every time someone's come in to #jQuery saying they found a bug in jQuery from the last year. | 15:04 |
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| rwaldron | DaveMethvin have you seen idiocracy? | 15:04 |
| DaveMethvin | Eviltwin: then you still have a LOT of bug making to do | 15:04 |
| DaveMethvin | yep rwaldron | 15:05 |
| DaveMethvin | it still bug, fix it | 15:05 |
| rwaldron | our bug tracker is hosting the casting party for the sequel | 15:05 |
| rwaldron | DaveMethvin did you review our meeting notes? | 15:06 |
| DaveMethvin | haven't done it yet, just got caught up on email | 15:06 |
| DaveMethvin | in a voice conf call now | 15:06 |
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| rwaldron | oh | 15:06 |
| rwaldron | no worries | 15:06 |
| rwaldron | it went smoothly | 15:06 |
| rwaldron | everything is in the doc | 15:07 |
| rwaldron | I'm heading out | 15:07 |
| DaveMethvin | i'll try to hop on later | 15:07 |
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| Eviltwin | Does jQuery have a Freenode project cloak? | 15:12 |
| ajpiano | i don't believe so | 15:15 |
| mikesherov | rwaldron: you're tright | 15:21 |
| bot-t | (29 mins 10 secs ago) <rwaldron> tell mikesherov see all of the above. | 15:21 |
| mikesherov | :-\ | 15:21 |
| mikesherov | rwaldron: it's not my fault the tool we tell all of our bug reporters to use has a bug in it! | 15:21 |
| mikesherov | here's an idea: submit a fiddle in this busted ass thing | 15:24 |
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| mikesherov | . | 16:01 |
| mikesherov | HTML5SHIV | 16:02 |
| mikesherov | It's a shiv that stabs you in the face | 16:02 |
| mikesherov | Can't oldIE just die already? | 16:02 |
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| mikesherov_ | DaveMethvin: you here? | 16:06 |
| mikesherov_ | nvm | 16:06 |
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| mikesherov_ | ?pr | 16:11 |
| bot-t | jQuery Core Pull Request Queue: https://github.com/jquery/jquery/pulls | 16:11 |
| bigbluehat | mikesherov_: sadly, the saga continues... http://jsfiddle.net/89WBB/2/ | 16:14 |
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| bigbluehat | this one's using Modernizr 2.5.3, adding a .hide class to hide the article, then using show() to do what it should | 16:15 |
| bigbluehat | article ends up as 'inline' after the .show() | 16:15 |
| bigbluehat | in IE 8 | 16:15 |
| mikesherov_ | right, but it's using the busted htmls5shiv | 16:16 |
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| bigbluehat | ? | 16:16 |
| bigbluehat | Modernizr uses the busted html5shiv? | 16:16 |
| bigbluehat | also, fwiw, .hide() then .show() works as it should: http://jsfiddle.net/6etCM/1/ | 16:17 |
| mikesherov_ | um | 16:20 |
| mikesherov_ | hold on a sec | 16:20 |
| mikesherov_ | yes, it uses html5shiv 3.4 | 16:22 |
| mikesherov_ | . | 16:23 |
| Eviltwin | Really shouldn't shiv change to accomodate jQuery? | 16:23 |
| Eviltwin | That'd be a lot easier | 16:24 |
| mikesherov_ | they had a regression | 16:25 |
| mikesherov_ | they fixed it | 16:25 |
| mikesherov_ | it hasn't found it's way yet into all the libs | 16:25 |
| bigbluehat | so what's the "good" version? | 16:25 |
| bigbluehat | 3.4 seems to be the latest http://code.google.com/p/html5shiv/source/list | 16:26 |
| mikesherov_ | honestly, I'm not sure. | 16:27 |
| bigbluehat | I guess this is the fix? https://github.com/aFarkas/html5shiv/commit/9aa5bcdca367fd86ec5d5b73ca4d95e032a0f502 | 16:27 |
| socialhapy | ★ Commit on html5shiv by aFarkas (1d, 2h ago): do not cache html5 elements fixes issue #54 (thx to @jamesreggio) | 16:27 |
| bigbluehat | so it's not even released yet... | 16:27 |
| bigbluehat | Eviltwin: fwiw, I'd hoped this was a shiv bug before I reported it...glad that's the case | 16:28 |
| mikesherov_ | Point is, this is now off-topic for jQUery | 16:29 |
| mikesherov_ | rwaldron already beat me into submission :-P | 16:29 |
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| bigbluehat | yeah...I get that... | 16:31 |
| mikesherov_ | if you want to know where the regression exactly is, keep testing each version of html5shiv starting at edge, until it breaks | 16:32 |
| mikesherov_ | then open a PR on modernizr | 16:32 |
| bigbluehat | yeah, looks like it's their most recent commit that fixes the node cache | 16:37 |
| bigbluehat | mikesherov_: yeah, their commit from *yesterday* is what fixes the bug | 16:41 |
| bigbluehat | here's a fiddle using the commit just prior: http://jsfiddle.net/6etCM/2/ | 16:41 |
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| xion-db | hello guys have someone try jquery flexigrid with success, under php? i can get the json variable but when run the funtion, this not show me anytable... | 18:33 |
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| gnarf | ?channels @xion-db | 18:59 |
| bot-t | xion-db, For support please go to #jquery or #jquerymobile. Development Channels: #jquery-dev - #jqueryui-dev - #jquerymobile-dev ; Meetings held in#jquery-meeting | 18:59 |
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| gnarf | Eviltwin: thanks for the sarcasm, i decided to just start ignoring him, but you made me laugh after i got back :) | 23:27 |
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| Eviltwin | Always love it when people say they found a bug in jQuery | 23:30 |
| Eviltwin | By which they mean it doesn't work how they expected, it works how it's documented instead | 23:30 |
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