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cjmis this a bug in 1.7.1? http://jsfiddle.net/eHHgP/2/  switching from 1.6.4 to 1.7.1 breaks the ability to pick up the LIs (becasue the coords are undefined)03:11
cjm(posting here becasue I haven't been able to find any info elsewhere)03:11
cjmjQuery.event.fixHooks["touchstart"] = jQuery.event.mouseHooks; jQuery.event.fixHooks["touchmove"] = jQuery.event.mouseHooks;03:28
cjmthat's the fix i'm using. don't know why the decision was made to change this stuff though.03:29
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ZamolxeHello. I've created a plugin called kiNotice http://ghita.org/ux/kinotice/demo/demo.php and after I read some articles about plugin patterns I decided to go with something simple. Please take a look at the source code of http://ghita.org/ux/kinotice/jquery.kinotice.js and suggest improvements. Thanks03:39
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cjmAnyone get a chance to look at this? http://jsfiddle.net/eHHgP/2/ my touch events broke in 1.708:28
cjmdue to rmouseEvent = /^(?:mouse|contextmenu)|click/,08:28
cjmwondering if this is a bug or if there is a new way to do this stuff in 1.7 -- I do jQuery.event.fixHooks["touchmove"] = jQuery.event.mouseHooks; for now08:32
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mikesherovcjm, did you file a bug?09:02
mikesherovcjm:.09:02
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Cokegodcjm: the same thing happend to me with drag events09:13
CokegodI don't know what the approach is with mobile devices, but drag events won't get fixed because it is not supported in all the browsers jQuery supports09:14
Cokegodat the end I did the same thing you did, and also made a plugin which is ready to be added to the new plugin site09:16
mikesherovCokegod: not necessarily... report the bug to the bug tracker09:16
mikesherovthat is the only way the team knows if it's a problem or not09:17
Cokegodhttp://bugs.jquery.com/ticket/1072909:18
Cokegodit already was reported, but you can see what dmethvin wrote09:19
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cjmwhy did this stuff change? might just go back to 1.6.4 :(09:54
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kswedbergcjm: I'm confused about why you can't use event.originalEvent10:28
kswedbergcjm: anyway, DaveMethvin is in the house, and he's the one who rewrote events for 1.7, so he'd probably be the best person to answer your questions.10:29
DaveMethvinquestions?10:29
kswedberghmm. maybe cjm stepped away.10:32
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Cokegodkswedberg: even when using event.originalEvent you still won't get the filtering10:34
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cjm@DaveMethvin sorry, back -- just wondering how I should do this in 1.7.1 -- http://jsfiddle.net/eHHgP/2/11:00
cjmworks in 1.6.411:01
cjmjust working around it for now with jQuery.event.fixHooks["touchmove"] = jQuery.event.mouseHooks;11:01
DaveMethvinthat's webkit-specific code, right?11:02
DaveMethvinjust use originalEvent11:02
DaveMethvinwe're not normalizing touch events11:02
cjmoooo, ok, i see11:04
cjmthanks11:04
CokegodDaveMethvin: will html5 events (not supported in IE<9) or touch events (not supported in desktop browsers) ever get this support?11:10
DaveMethvini don't know, they are relatively expensive in either size or in speed11:11
DaveMethvinso we either need to look at the event type and copy over just the stuff that is vald, or say to heck with validity and copy everything11:11
DaveMethvinin which case a touchmove or mousemove event will have a huge amount of additional baggage and performance problems that you certainly might see on a phone or ipad11:12
DaveMethvinreally if you are handling touch events, shouldn't you be looking at the pageX of the touch?11:12
DaveMethvinthere's a different pageX/Y for each touch in the array11:13
Cokegodand what about html5 events?11:13
DaveMethvinwhich ones?11:13
Cokegoddrag events11:13
Cokegodthey aren't really different than mouse events, the only difference is the dataTransfer property11:13
DaveMethvinwhat  do you want from them?11:14
DaveMethvinoh that11:14
DaveMethvinthere's an open ticket on that right?11:14
Cokegodyes11:14
DaveMethvindid you comment in it?11:14
DaveMethvini t hink i asked for input11:14
DaveMethvintrying to figure out whether fixing it was worth the addl performance hit11:14
DaveMethvinin the meantime you can assign the mousehook to it, or use originalevent11:15
Cokegodok11:17
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mikesherov.11:55
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mikesherovDaveMethvin: you here?12:02
DaveMethvinyep, what's up mikesherov?12:02
mikesherovhttps://github.com/jquery/sizzle/pull/75 can be closed now since your sizzle fix12:03
socialhapy★ Pull request on sizzle by sjoerdmulder (1m, 2w ago): Fixing JSLint / JSHint warning: Mixed spaces and tabs12:03
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kswedbergDaveMethvin: I converted your Event Extensions article to md for you : http://bit.ly/w0y9VC12:04
DaveMethvinthanks kswedberg!12:04
DaveMethvinmikesherov: good point12:05
mikesherovjust keeping an eye on the queue ;-)12:05
DaveMethvinsure, thanks...and done12:05
mikesherovoh, and I'm going to have a new PR to address AaronAsAChimp's fix for jqbug.com/798612:05
mikesherovdoc?798612:06
DaveMethvin?798612:06
bot-t[#7986] Bug in $.support.boxModel if page has DIV-element CSS (open bug) - http://jqbug.com/798612:06
kswedbergsure thing, DaveMethvin. not sure what md parser the site will use, but it might have a hard time with the <dl> since that syntax isn't part of the core MD12:06
mikesherovthere we go12:06
DaveMethvinkswedberg: yeah i am not sure either, it seems like "everyone uses md" but nobody uses the same dialect12:06
mikesherovI tested it pretty heavily, but would love some additional testing12:07
DaveMethvinkswedberg:  so should this go to learn.jquery.com now?12:08
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kswedbergyeah, sounds right. and maybe do the excerpt sneak-preview thing for the blog in the meantime12:10
DaveMethvinin the learningjquery blog?12:10
mikesherovhttps://github.com/jquery/jquery/pull/63012:12
socialhapy★ Pull request on jquery by mikesherov (1m, 26s ago): fixes #7986, Bug in $.support.boxModel if page has DIV-element CSS12:12
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kswedbergI was actually thinking put it on blog.jquery.com. and ajpiano could add a note to it saying that it's a sneak preview of the kind of content we'll be seeing on learn.jquery.com12:19
kswedbergDaveMethvin ^^12:19
DaveMethvinoh, ok ... of course ajpiano also relayed a complaint that blog.jquery.com was getting too "noisy"12:19
DaveMethvini guess that will be less of an issue once learn isup12:20
mikesherovDaveMethvin: that write up is amazing12:20
kswedbergthat complaint is just silly12:20
DaveMethvinamazing ==> TOO LONG12:20
mikesherovOh, btw, I assume the jquery bug tracker gets regular backups?12:20
DaveMethviner, um,12:20
DaveMethvindanheberden may know how often it gets a backup12:20
kswedbergdanheberden: see mikesherov's question ^^12:21
mikesherovor, I'd rather phrase it this way: Seeing as we just saw the drawbacks of not doing regular backups, we should do a sweep and make sure other systems are backed up regularly12:21
DaveMethvinand i mean, what possibly could go wrong?12:21
DaveMethvinoh wait, does ajpiano have access to the bug tracker?12:21
kswedbergha. DaveMethvin, you beat me to the danheberden callout12:21
mikesherovLOL12:21
* DaveMethvin runs away12:21
kswedbergmeanie12:21
mikesherovbut seriously12:21
mikesherovit would be a disaster to have something like bugs.jquery.com not backed up regularly12:22
DaveMethvinYOU ARE JINXING US12:22
DaveMethvin:D12:22
kswedbergmikesherov: true. we'll get danheberden on it12:22
mikesherovit may already be happening, I just want to double check12:23
kswedbergdon't we all. ;)12:23
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EviltwinI was looking at th 1.7.1 source12:51
EviltwinNoticed this weird asymmetry: http://pastebin.com/dpZikzeA12:52
EviltwinI tried $(this).live("click",f); $(this).die("click",f); which didn't work12:53
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kswedbergDaveMethvin: I added your article to my local copy of the learn.jquery.com repo. looking good! http://swedberg.us/grab/evt-20111210-155857.png / http://swedberg.us/grab/evt-20111210-160011.png13:00
DaveMethvinwow!13:00
DaveMethvinlooking really good, thanks13:01
kswedbergsure thing. :)13:01
kswedberghaven't pushed anything yet. waiting on ajpiano to see if he wants me to fork and pull request or just push to the main repo13:02
ajpianohey13:10
ajpianoi'm cool with you just pushing to master for now13:10
kswedbergcool deal. thx, ajpiano.13:10
ajpianoassuming you have access to that repo already :)13:10
kswedbergI believe so. heh. probably should check that.13:10
kswedbergyep13:11
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kswedbergajpiano: apparently tmp/checksum and tmp/compiled_content were modified (maybe by nanoc?). and they're sourced? do I need to commit those, too?13:14
ajpianono they were being tracked errantly and i stopped tracking them13:16
ajpianoi think you need to do like git rm --cached tmp/*13:16
kswedbergaha. ok, cool. thx13:16
ajpianoyou just need to jigger around until they go away ;)13:17
ajpianothey're .gitignore'd now13:17
kswedberggotcha. :)13:17
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kswedbergruh roh. seems I was working in an old repo.. oh well. I'll figure this out.13:19
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ajpianoold repo13:21
ajpianoohhhhh13:21
ajpianocheck the readme on current one13:22
ajpianowe moved the url13:22
kswedbergk. will do. actually, maybe I'll just start over. It was pretty much just the added article (and a couple small css additions)13:22
ajpianomight be easier :p13:23
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kswedbergajpiano: pushed. :)13:34
ajpianokswedberg: :D13:38
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burdickjpI'm trying to get a select element to change the contents of a peer div, but not the div of another parent:14:51
burdickjphttp://jsfiddle.net/pCCFD/2/14:51
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rwaldron?tell DaveMethvin node.js, windows azure: https://www.windowsazure.com/en-us/develop/nodejs/16:05
bot-trwaldron, Okay.16:05
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fabiobikhi19:29
fabiobikcan someone test my website19:29
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