I am beginning to have my own concerns about jTip.

My jTips work fine in FF but in IE7 they are all shifted to the right
by a fixed amount and I dont understand why or have a clue (ha ha) on
how to fix it.

I am going to post on this list and see if any one has a clue and
maybe a tip. (ok ok I'll stop).

If you go to this page and pass the cursor over the bird Acadian
Flycatcher you will see what I mean.

http://www.whatbird.com/wwwroot/Components/Complete_Search_Tab.html

I felt Karl's cluetip popups on his demo seemed slow to respond to me,
and I did not like that I had to add another plugin to use them
(dimensions). On the other hand Karl does a great job on documenting
his work and is incredibly helpful so....Unless I someone bails me out
I will have to switch.

Mitch

PS "Battling" Firebug was a poor description. I dont use debuggers so
this has had a steep learning curve for me of which I am somewhere
still on the lower slopes. But I am beginning to get how to use it.

On Aug 20, 11:31 am, Pops <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Aug 19, 11:52 pm, Mitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I will look into ClueTip. I like the way this coder set things up but
> > he did not do a good job laying out how to use it, and compared to
> > other plugin specialists here, he did not set up the plugin for
> > automatic use, I had to play with before I saw how it really worked.
> > Maybe ClueTip did a better job of documentation, because for me that
> > is as important as the plugin itself.
>
> jTip is small and sweet, but I quickly ran into ergnomic issues in our
> frame mode mail system layout where the top left frame has the message
> listing and upon user request, they want these stupid previews when
> hovering over a message link.  Well, the preview box would be cut off
> for links near the bottom of the frame, and we envision fasinated
> users will swoop the mouse over the links to popup the previews. This
> would hit the server uselessly.  So I looked to changed jTip to add
> smarter placement of the view and to add a delay to tthe popup.  But
> before I did that I (I hate changing other people's code and I had
> downloaded the jTip zip that included jQuery but I didn't really know
> of jQuery)), I wrote to the author about it (no response) and searched
> to find outer "balloon tip" libraries.  That is when I found ClueTip
> and jQuery as well. That was two weeks ago and I'm having a ball with
> this stuff. :-)
>
> ClueTip covered the two features I wanted very nicely and then some.
> I agree, docs is important.  I don't recall  but I hink I used the
> example/demo source to see how it works.
>
> > Oh and I am still curious how people deal with battling CSS. Firebug?
>
> Not sure what you mean?  Battling how?
>
> Honestly,  I found Firebug about 3 weeks ago and jQuery about 2 weeks
> ago. :-)  FireBug is basic debugger with traditional debugger ideas so
> its quick to learn and use (for me).   jQuery is an oddity :-)   I
> like the "jQuery Theory" but on the other hand the more I use it with
> other people plugins is raising a concern.  Something I put to the
> side for the moment, but I am seeing more than usual cross-browser
> issues.  i.e, what might work great under FF doesn't under IE.
> Anyway, thats a different matter. :-)
>
> ---
> HLS

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