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<title>CSS3 Multi-column layout – disposition of comments</title>
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<h1>CSS3 Multi-column Layout Module – disposition of comments</h1>
<p>Last call document: <a href="http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-css3-multicol-20090630/">http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-css3-multicol-20090630/</a>.
<p>Editor's draft: <a href="http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css3-multicol">http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css3-multicol</a>
<p>The following color coding convention is used for comments:</p>
<ul>
<li class=a>The CSS WG agreed with the reviewer.
<li class=r>The CSS WG disagreed with the reviewer.
<li class=fo>The CSS WG disagreed with the reviewer and the reviewer raised a Formal Objection.
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<p>(There were no formal objections.)</p>
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<tr><th>#<th>Comment<th>Answer
<tr><th colspan=3><a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2009Aug/0120.html">Comment</a> from Alex Mogilevsky on 2009-08-10
<tr class=a><td>
<p>Here is what I propose for floats in multicol:
<p>1) In [multicol] spec, remove special treatment for overflow of floats. Overflow floats should be clipped to the column exactly as any other kind of overflow would. This way, content that was initially designed for single-column layout has same behavior.
<p>2) Leave definition of floats that intrude across columns to GCPM [2]. In fact, page floats as currently defined in GCPM are powerful enough to work as shown in [1].
<td>There have been no implementations of intrusions, so it seems best to removed them when going to CR.
<td><a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2009Sep/0186.html">Answer</a> on www-style
<tr><th colspan=3><a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2009Jul/0045.html">Comment</a> from Sylvain Galineau on 2009-07-14 (!)
<tr class=a><td>
In section 4, Column gaps and rules <a href="http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-css3-multicol-20090630/#column-gaps-and-rules">[1]</a>:
<blockquote><p>"Column rules are only drawn between columns that have content."</blockquote>
Assuming column 2's entire content did not fit e.g. an image and needs to overflow to the next page, I assume column 2 is considered to have content in this case.
<p>[1] http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-css3-multicol-20090630/#column-gaps-and-rules
<td>
<td><a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2009Oct/0159.html">Answer</a> on www-style, <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2009Nov/0019.html">followup</a> from Sylvain, <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2009Nov/0020.html">final message from howcome</a>
<tr><th colspan=3><a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2009Jul/0003.html">Comment</a> from Bert Bos on 2009-07-01
<tr class=a><td>I just noticed that there is still an example (example VI) in the
non-normative section 1 that we forgot to delete, when we removed
the 'column-break-*' properties from the draft.
<td>editorial
<td><a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2009Oct/0134.html">fixed</a>
<tr><th colspan=3><a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2009Jul/0000.html">Comment</a> from Giovanni Campagna on 2009-07-01
<tr class=a><td>The title is still "CSS3 module: Multi-column layout"
<p>Hadn't the WG decided to adopt consistent naming and in particular to
avoid saying CSS3?
<p>If yes, it should be called "CSS Multi-column Layout Module" or "CSS
Multi-column Layout Module Level 3" (although I guess that Level 3 is
only for features that did exist in level 2)
<td>New title: CSS Multi-column Layout Module
<td><a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2009Oct/0133.html">howcome</a>
<a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2009Oct/0141.html">Giovanni</a>
<a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2009Oct/0148.html">howcome</a>
<tr class=r><td>About column-rule-color:
Why UAs are required only to support CSS2 colors?
If the goal is to avoid the burden of hsl / rgba / SVG colors,
shouldn't that be delegated to a reduced profile?
<td>The CSS WG chose to point to refer to CSS 2.1 instead of creating a reduced profile. This was accepted by Giovanni.
<td><a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2009Oct/0133.html">howcome
A0EC
</a>
<a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2009Oct/0141.html">Giovanni</a>
<a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2009Oct/0148.html">howcome</a>
<tr class=a><td>About column breaks:
At the beginning of section 5, replace desrciption with description
<td>editorial
<td><a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2009Oct/0133.html">howcome</a>
<a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2009Oct/0141.html">Giovanni</a>
<a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2009Oct/0148.html">howcome</a>
<tr class=a><td>About column breaks: Is it possible to avoid a column break while still allow a page break?
Is the intended effect like:
<pre>
----------------------------------
| a bcd efg hij | |
| lmn opq rst u | |
/ page break, but content remains
in the same column /
| rst uvw xyz ab| |
| cde fgh ijk l | |
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<td>
<td><a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2009Oct/0133.html">howcome</a>
<a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2009Oct/0141.html">Giovanni</a>
<a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2009Oct/0148.html">howcome</a>
<tr class=a><td>About column breaks: What about margin and collapsing of them?
If you're delegating all (not just properties) to css3-page, you
should say that explicitly.
<td>
<td><a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2009Oct/0133.html">howcome</a>
<a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2009Oct/0141.html">Giovanni</a>
<a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2009Oct/0148.html">howcome</a>
<tr class=a><td>About overflow inside and outside the multicolum element:
you should insert some examples of non-floated, overflowing,
clipped element (maybe inlines with long words)
<td>
<td><a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2009Oct/0133.html">howcome</a>
<a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2009Oct/0141.html">Giovanni</a>
<a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2009Oct/0148.html">howcome</a>
<tr class=a><td>About overflow inside and outside the multicolum element:
what happens if a non-floated element overflows vertically?
Is it still clipped regardless of overflow? Can implementations put
scrollbars, if overflow asks so?
<td>
<td><a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2009Oct/0133.html">howcome</a>
<a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2009Oct/0141.html">Giovanni</a>
<a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2009Oct/0148.html">howcome</a>
<tr class=a><td>About overflow inside and outside the multicolum element:
what happens if Example XVIII has an element that floats on
the rigth? Is the element clipped (showing only the right part), does
the element intrude (ignoring the side of the float), does overflow
apply?
<td>intrusion has been removed
<td><a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2009Oct/0133.html">howcome</a>
<a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2009Oct/0141.html">Giovanni</a>
<a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2009Oct/0148.html">howcome</a>
<tr class=a><td>About overflow inside and outside the multicolum element:
if there are more columns than available, are scrollbars
rendered when overflow:auto / scroll?
<td>
<td><a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2009Oct/0133.html">howcome</a>
<a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2009Oct/0141.html">Giovanni</a>
<a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2009Oct/0148.html">howcome</a>
<tr class=a><td>Section conformance names a "column-grid-image", but no definition
is provided in the document.
<td>a spurious reference to 'column-gap-image' has been removed
<td><a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2009Oct/0133.html">howcome</a>
<a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2009Oct/0141.html">Giovanni</a>
<a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2009Oct/0148.html">howcome</a>
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