adding Steve's layout text

Author: grorg

css3-2d-transforms/Overview.html

@@ -21,8 +21,7 @@
 
    <h1>CSS 2D Transforms Module Level 3</h1>
 
-   <h2 class="no-num no-toc" id=longstatus-date>Editor's Draft 18 February
-    2009</h2>
+   <h2 class="no-num no-toc" id=longstatus-date>Editor's Draft 6 March 2009</h2>
 
    <dl>
     <dt>This version:
@@ -216,14 +215,23 @@ <h2 id=introduction><span class=secno>1 </span>Introduction</h2>
    positioned objects should do this, i.e., that it's much harder to
    implement otherwise.</div>
 
-  <div class=issue> Transforms should perhaps be allowed to affect layout,
-   under some circumstances. A uniform architecture for the layout-affecting
-   and layout-independent cases might cause architectural changes to the
-   layout-independent case that is detailed in this version of this document.
-   One possibility is to use the position property to affect layout, and this
-   seems to be a logical choice, but there are lots of questions about how
-   this would work. If you have an opinion on this topic, please send
-   feedback.</div>
+  <div class=issue> There are two roles for transformations in layout: (1)
+   transformations that adjust the position of the affected content without
+   changing the normal layout of that content (much like relative
+   positioning) and (2) transformation of the content prior to layout that
+   affects the layout of that content. See <a
+   href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2007Oct/0209">http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2007Oct/0209</a>
+   for examples of both cases. The "transform" property (as defined in this
+   document) is equally useful for both roles. This document is focused on
+   satisfying the first role. There is, however, an architectural question
+   that arises because there needs to be a way to distinguish which role an
+   author of a stylesheet wants. The key question is which is the default
+   behavior/role for the "transform" property and how is the other
+   behavior/role indicated by a stylesheet author. One possibility is to use
+   the position property, particularly position: relative, to trigger the
+   first role; another possibility is to make the first role the default
+   which leaves the question as to how to indicate the second role. If you
+   have an opinion on this topic, please send feedback.</div>
 
   <div class=issue> What do fixed backgrounds do in transforms? They should
    probably ignore the transform completely, since - even transformed - the

css3-2d-transforms/Overview.src.html

@@ -113,14 +113,24 @@ <h2>Introduction</h2>
         should do this, i.e., that it's much harder to implement otherwise.
       </div>
       <div class="issue">
-        Transforms should perhaps be allowed to affect layout, under some
-        circumstances. A uniform architecture for the layout-affecting and
-        layout-independent cases might cause architectural changes to the
-        layout-independent case that is detailed in this version of this
-        document. One possibility is to use the position property to affect
-        layout, and this seems to be a logical choice, but there are lots of
-        questions about how this would work.
-        If you have an opinion on this topic, please send feedback.
+        There are two roles for transformations in layout: (1) transformations
+        that adjust the position of the affected content without changing the
+        normal layout of that content (much like relative positioning) and (2)
+        transformation of the content prior to layout that affects the layout
+        of that content. See <a
+        href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2007Oct/0209">http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2007Oct/0209</a>
+        for examples of both cases. The "transform" property (as defined in
+        this document) is equally useful for both roles. This document is
+        focused on satisfying the first role. There is, however, an
+        architectural question that arises because there needs to be a way to
+        distinguish which role an author of a stylesheet wants. The key
+        question is which is the default behavior/role for the "transform"
+        property and how is the other behavior/role indicated by a stylesheet
+        author. One possibility is to use the position property, particularly
+        position: relative, to trigger the first role; another possibility is
+        to make the first role the default which leaves the question as to how
+        to indicate the second role. If you have an opinion on this topic,
+        please send feedback.
       </div>
       <div class="issue">
         What do fixed backgrounds do in transforms? They should probably ignore