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===== Sydney F2F February 2015 =====

  • Host: Google
  • Dates: Monday-Wednesday, February 09-11, 2015 (with SVG on Wednesday or at least Wednesday morning)
  • Times: Doors will open from 8:30am. Meeting can run from 9:00am - 6:30pm as required.

==== Meeting Minutes ====

Monday, 9 February:

Tuesday, 10 February:

Wednesday, 11 February:

==== Place ====

Google Sydney: Level 5, 48 Pirrama Road, Pyrmont (WP6) and Level 2, 1 Darling Island Road, Pyrmont (ODI). The two buildings are directly across the park from each other.

[[https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=zJ65I1F7fhHg.kXMVcT5RKNhU|This map]] might help.

Meeting Room:

  • Monday and Wednesday: Barangaroo, on Level 4 of WP6.
  • Tuesday: Cylon, on Level 2 of ODI. note change of building for Tuesday.

Instructions for arrival:

Please come directly up to level 4. A security guard will let you in and I will have a badge for you.

If you arrive after 9:30am, please either:

  • call Shane Stephens on +61 405 491 744; or
  • log on to the free Google Guest wifi (which should be accessible from the ground floor) and ping someone on #css. Parking: If you think you'd like to drive to the meeting, please let Shane know and he will try and book parking for you at Google. Parking is limited. There are also parking stations nearby, particularly [[http://www.wilsonparking.com.au/go/wilson-car-parks/nsw/harbourside|Harbourside]].

Weather

==== Contacts ====

==== Participants ====

Please, put your name in this table if you plan to participate (alphabetical order):

^ Name ^ Arrival ^ Departure ^ Hotel ^ Flight info and notes ^ | Tab Atkins | ??? | ??? | airbnb | ??? | | L. David Baron | 5 Feb | 14 Feb | Travelodge Hotel Sydney | ANZ 7/101, ANZ 104 | | Rick Byers | 3 Feb | 12 Feb | Novotel | UA 863, UA 870 | | Tantek Çelik | 8 Feb | 12 Feb | airbnb | UA 863, UA 870 | | Dave Cramer | 7 Feb | 12 Feb | airbnb | QF 8 / QF 7, also Project Houdini | | fantasai | 8 Feb| 15 Feb | airbnb | NZ9791+NZ5+NZ103 / NZ102+NZ14+NZ9005 | | Daniel Glazman | 4 Feb | 12 Feb | 1888 | KE121 / QF021, also Project Houdini | | Dean Jackson | ??? | ??? | ??? | Probably via land not air | | Toru Kawakubo | 7 Feb | 12 Feb | Ibis Sydney Darling Harbor | QF 22 / QF 21 | | Ian Kilpatrick | - | - | - | - | | Chris Lilley | 6 Feb | 15 Feb | Y Hyde Park | BA 345/CX 254/CX 111, CX 100/CX 237/BA 346 | | Peter Linss | 5 Feb | 15 Feb | Novotel Sydney Darling Harbor | UA 863 / UA 870 | | Shinyu Murakami | 7 Feb | 12 Feb | Ibis Sydney Darling Harbor | QF 22 / QF 21 | | Robert O'Callahan | ? | ? | ? | Observer from Mozilla (Houdini, CSS, SVG) | | Xidorn Quan | ??? | ??? | ??? | Observer from Mozilla | | Florian Rivoal | 8 Feb | 12 Feb | airbnb | AY0656+AY5811+KE704+KE121, KE122+KE721 | | Simon Sapin | 3 Feb | 16 Feb | Novotel Sydney Darling Harbor | EK 414 / EK 415 | | Alan Stearns | 6 Feb | 16 Feb | ??? | DL 17 / DL 16 | | Shane Stephens | - | - | - | - | | Simon Pieters | 8 Feb | 10 Feb | ibis Sydney Darling Harbour | QF 8414 / QF 8413 | | Jet Villegas | ??? | ??? | ??? | ??? | | Ian Vollick | ??? | ??? | ??? | ??? | | Greg Whitworth | 6 Feb | 15 Feb | ??? | DL | | Cameron McCormack | ??? | ??? | ??? | Observer from Mozilla | | Rossen Atanassov | 6 Feb | 19 Feb | airbnb | DL | | Andrey Rybka | 6 Feb | 15 Feb | Novotel Sydney Darling Harbour | UA | | Johannes Wilm | 7 Feb | 12 Feb | Sydney Darling Harbour Hotel | KL 1132/KL 0809/KL 4079, KL 4104/KL 0810/KL 1125 | | Steve Zilles | 6 Feb | 11 Feb | Meriton Serviced Apartments Kent Street | VA 992, JL0772 | | Hyojin Song | 8 Feb | 12 Feb | Novotel Rockford Darling Harbour | KE121 / KE122 (LG Electronics) |

= === Visa Requirements ==== A visa is required for US Citizens to enter Australia (citizens of other countries please check with the appropriate authorities), a visa may be obtained electronically from the [[http://www.eta.immi.gov.au/|Electronic Travel Authority web site]].

==== Travel to/from airport ====

A taxi from the airport to the meeting venue or any of the listed hotels will cost between $30 and $50, depending on traffic. There's generally only a short wait to get a taxi, and a fairly orderly queue. This is probably the most convenient, and also the cheapest if you share with others...

If staying in Chinatown, the [[http://www.airportlink.com.au/directions/sydney-city.php|airport train line]] is reasonably convenient. A one-way ticket is $16.40. If you're staying in Pyrmont, you can still take the train, then jump on the [[http://www.sydneylightrail.transport.nsw.gov.au/|light rail]] from 'Central' to 'the Star'. You'll need to pay $4.60 (in cash) after boarding the train.

Some hotels offer complimentary bus transfers to/from the airport - check with your hotel when booking. ==== Hotels ====

Please note that I don't have any direct experience of these hotels! If you've stayed in one before (looking at you, Tab), chime in and recommend.

There are some close but expensive hotels:

There are also a number of decent cheaper hotels in China town. These are further away (~20 minute walk from the office) - note that there is a light rail line from this area to the office. Services depart every 10 minutes during peak and a return ticket (which can be purchased on the train) is $6.40.

I had a reasonable amount of success looking for cheaper rates (in many cases at these same hotels) on booking.com.

==== Airbnb ====

It can host 6 people, and 6 people have expressed interest.

  • Tab Atkins: Feb 4 to 13 (I'm here longer than all of y'all)
  • Tantek Çelik Feb 8 to 12 (departing that day)
  • Rossen Atanassov: Feb 6 to 12
  • Dave Cramer: Feb 7 to 12
  • Florian Rivoal: Feb 8 to 12
  • Fantasai ==== Other ====

=== Network ===

The GoogleGuest network will be available throughout the building. No password is required.

=== Money ===

Its plastic. No, not that sort of plastic. Being able to swim and paper money are fundamentally incompatible. Side note: do not iron the money

More seriously, it's the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_dollar|Australian dollar (AUD)]]. See [[http://www.oanda.com/currency/table?exch=AUD&sel_list=USD_EUR_GBP_JPY_NOK_SEK_NZD_CNY_TWD_KRW&value=1&format=HTML&redirected=1|exchange rates]].

You should be able to use your credit card pretty much everywhere (especially Mastercard and Visa). Diners Club cards tend to attract a fee or not be accepted. Checks are not generally accepted.

=== Electricity ===

230V, 50Hz, 10A [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AS/NZS_3112|flat, angled awesome pins]]

{{https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7a/Australian_dual_switched_power_point.jpg}}

Notice the small switch on the side. Unless you flip it on, don't expect the power socket to do much for you.

Via the [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKUZhoYJI3M|magic of pliers]], Australian and US power plugs are somewhat interoperable (I don't recommend you actually do this). === Tourism ===

Far too many tourists, especially in winter^H^H^H^H^H^Hsummer ==== Food ====

We have both kinds: pies and ..

actually, just [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meat_pie_%28Australia_and_New_Zealand%29 |pies]].

==== IRC Logs ====

==== Agenda ====

=== Mon ===

== AM ==

== PM ==

  • css-sizing: interaction of floats and percentage-sized stuff and shrink-to-fit sizing; preferred width vs. max-content width

  • CSS Text (Koji would like to call in)

    • break opportunities around replaced elements ([[spec:css3-text:line-break-around-replaced-elements|summary on the wiki]])
    • Coordinated release of visible control characters.
  • CSS Writing Modes (Koji would like to call in)

  • multi-line / block ellipsis (Florian)

=== Tue ===

== AM ==

== PM ==

  • Page Floats

  • @extend

  • Custom ident

  • Flexbox

  • Form control styling: http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css-forms/

  • Update Snapshot

    • CSS 2.2 FPWD
  • Obsolete http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-linebox/

  • W3C new publication system Echidna (public beta Mon 8 Feb)

  • upcoming meeting dates and locations

  • css-ruby: vertical aspects of ruby layout and line spacing rules (dbaron)

  • css-ruby: loop between computed values of display and writing-mode (related to ruby-position) (dbaron)

=== Wed ===

== AM ==

== Lunch ==

  • Gelato

== PM ==

=== Overflow ===

==== Proposed Agenda Topics ====