- From: Florian Rivoal via GitHub <sysbot+gh@w3.org>
- Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2016 07:52:29 +0000
- To: public-css-archive@w3.org
I [responded to the older mail
thread](https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2016Dec/0103.html)
before noticing this github thread. Reposting here.
----
[Text decoration level
4](https://drafts.csswg.org/css-text-decor-4/#text-decoration-skip-property)
also wants to add more than just `objects` to the initial value. It
calls or `objects leading-spaces trailing-spaces`.
It makes sense to me to combine the two, and aim for `objects
leading-spaces trailing-spaces ink` as the default.
I think whether we should do so by having a verbose initial value,
introducing an `auto` value, or going via the UA stylesheet, can be
informed by trying to solve one other problematic aspect of this
property. Essentially, it is a list of independent toggles, but you
cannot easily add or remove one while keeping whatever else would be
there intact.
Say I want to add `leading-spaces` and `trailing-spaces` to the
default behavior, and put this in my author stylesheet:
~~~
:root { text-decoration-skip: objects leading-spaces trailing-spaces;
}
~~~
Bam, I've just accidentally killed safari's by-default ink-skipping
that I wasn't even aware of.
Or say I go the other way around, and like safari's by-default
ink-skipping and add it to my author stylesheet to do the same in
other browsers. Now if/when browsers add leading-spaces and
trailing-spaces to the default value, I miss out.
Similarly, say I want to remove object-skipping for a particular
element, `<del>` for example how do I do that if I don't want to
affect whatever else was being skipped, whether it came from default
values, UA styles, or some other style I wrote myself?
I think the only precedent we have for this is the font-variant
property, which is also a list of switches. If we apply the same model
to text-decoration-skip, we'd have something like this (verbosity and
bikesheding aside):
longhands:
~~~
text-decoration-skip-objects: none | objects
text-decoration-skip-spaces: none | [leading-spaces ||
trailing-spaces] | spaces
text-decoration-skip-ink: none | ink
text-decoration-skip-edges: none | edges
text-decoration-skip-box-decoration: none | box-decoration
~~~
shorthand:
~~~
text-decoration-skip: none | auto |
[
objects ||
[ spaces | [ leading-spaces || trailing-spaces
] ||
ink ||
edges ||
box-decoration
]
~~~
`none` sets all longhands to `none`, `auto` is the initial value, and
sets longhands to something smart (`object ink leading-spaces
trailing-spaces`?), and other values are passed to through to the
corresponding longhands and set all others longhands to none.
Alternatively, since we have no compat baggage to worry about and we
would want authors to use these longhands to avoid the traps I
mentioned at the beginning, maybe the shorthand should only have
`none` and `auto`.
Actually I think I'd prefer that. Here's a possible bikesheeding:
~~~
text-decoration-skip: none | auto
text-decoration-skip-objects: none | all
text-decoration-skip-spaces: none | [leading || trailing] | all
text-decoration-skip-ink: none | all
text-decoration-skip-edges: none | all
text-decoration-skip-box-decoration: none | all
~~~
I know that's a breaking change and the spec is already in CR, but if
you all agree it's a good idea, I wouldn't feel bad about doing it
given the lack of implementations.
PS: the `[leading || trailing]` part could only be in level 4, but the
rest should go in level 3 if we want to do it at all.
--
GitHub Notification of comment by frivoal
Please view or discuss this issue at
https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/727#issuecomment-268952763
using your GitHub account
Received on Friday, 23 December 2016 07:52:32 UTC