Commons-l September 2011

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Video skills and equipment
by Lars Aronsson 16 Apr '25

16 Apr '25

I just tried to watch some presentation videos from Wikimania. Some had very weak sound, some had no sound in the first minutes, some only played the first minute and then stopped. I don't think the Wikimania videos are unique in having such problems. Video is new to Commons, and the expert contributors are more familiar with still images. How can we learn to make better videos? Are there some good instructions? Perhaps a free instruction video (Wikibooks, but a video instead of a book) on how to produce good videos is what we need. In fact, the English Wikibooks has a title on "Video Production", http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Video_Production but it doesn't have a clear focus (pun not intended). It starts out with discussing satellite TV and has long sections on file formats in different operating systems. There is a help page on Commons for converting video to the Ogg Theora format, but that is only the last step in a long chain. Given that video is new, how can we find and rate videos, nominate "good/featured videos", and give advice on how to improve quality? Is the Commons village pump enough for this? Commons has a separate graphics village pump. Do we also need a separate video village pump? Current digital video cameras use hard disks or memory cards, instead of tape cassettes. Many new models cost less than 300 euro (or dollars), some as little as 120 euro (memory card perhaps not included). Some have a special "Youtube mode", and I guess that kind of usage is what drives the price down. What models are good, and what should one watch out for? We can find free still photos on Flickr and copy them to Commons. Is there somewhere we can find free videos and copy them? Yes, at the Internet Archive. Somewhere else? -- Lars Aronsson (lars(a)aronsson.se) Aronsson Datateknik - http://aronsson.se

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translation of categories
by bawolff 19 Jul '12

19 Jul '12

Someone in the thread on friendliness mentioned that categories are always in one language (usually english). Well still a long way from fixing the issue, perhaps if we allowed unrestricted {{DISPLAYTITLE:...}}, combined with the {{int: hack, that'd allow better translatable categories. (of course you'd only be able to use the actual category name in [[category:Foo]] links. I suppose one could use a bot to automatically change links to redirect categories to their canonical name, but then we're getting really really hacky). Anyways, just a thought. cheers, bawolff

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Automated identification of images on commons
by とある白い猫 27 Sep '11

27 Sep '11

Hi, I am attending ImageCLEF and they seem to have pretty reliable way to identify content on images automatically. For instance they can identify if an image has a specific species of Plant based on the leaf type or if the image has a UK flag and etc. This can even be used to detect image vandalism to for example quickly catch genitalia uploads and quickly tag them for review I am thinking. Any thoughts on the matter? -- とある白い猫 (To Aru Shiroi Neko)

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Re: [Commons-l] [Foundation-l] There is a deadline
by John Vandenberg 23 Sep '11

23 Sep '11

Very nice essay emijrp. I think this essay belongs on meta, as it pertains to the archival and curation of primary sources (Commons, Wikisource) rather than crowd sourced creation of secondary and tertiary sources (Wikipedia and Wikibooks). On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 12:43 AM, emijrp <emijrp(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi all; > > I have written an essay (my first one)[1] about the idea "There is a > deadline". It is opposite to the old essay (from 2006) which holds that > there is no deadline. > > I hope my redaction is good enough to explain my opinion about this topic. > Please, if you find errors, fix them, I'm not very fluent in English. > Thanks. > > Regards, > emijrp > > [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:There_is_a_deadline > _______________________________________________ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > -- John Vandenberg

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Proposed custom wikitext license feature for UploadWizard
by Neil Kandalgaonkar 19 Sep '11

19 Sep '11

UploadWizard is currently not used by experienced uploaders for a number of reasons, among which is that they can't use some custom wikitext licenses. We'd like to address that. I made a mockup of a possible implementation. Comments welcome, especially on balancing usability versus convenience here. We already have people abusing the {{FAL}} option, and we don't want to make it worse. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:UploadWizard/CustomWikiTextLicenseF… -- Neil Kandalgaonkar (| <neilk(a)wikimedia.org>

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86% of german users disagree with the introduction of the personal image filter
by Tobias Oelgarte 17 Sep '11

17 Sep '11

Dear readers Yesterday, on September 15th 2011, the German Wikipedia closed the poll (Meinungsbild) "Einführung persönlicher Bildfilter". [1] It asked the question if the personal image filter can be introduced or if it should not be introduced. A strong majority of 86% percent voted to not allow the personal image filter [2] , despite the fact that the board already decided to introduce the feature. The questions are: * Will the board or the WMF proceed with the introduction of the personal image filter against the will of it's second largest community? * If the WMF/board does not care about the first question. Will it affect the way the personal image filter will be implemented? For example: Not for all projects. A different implementation as suggested inside the "image filter referendum". * Will there be an attempt to follow this example and to question other communities the same question? Greetings from Tobias Oelgarte [1] http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meinungsbilder/Einf%C3%BChrung_pers%… [2] http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meinungsbilder/Einf%C3%BChrung_pers%…

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[en] linking metadata on Commons (template design & usage)
by Sumana Harihareswara 16 Sep '11

16 Sep '11

"Authority control" refers to controlled (i.e. curated, edited) list of authorities: i.e. authors of works. The issue, then, is metadata that links an image on Commons to the information about the subject in the catalogue of the relevant museum or art gallery. Jarek is working on templates to make this metadata capture/linkage easier. He wrote about it to a few people. Thought other Wikimedia devs might want to know, so I got his permission to forward his emails. If there's a better mailing list for template discussion, please point me there. (I'm not going to stay subscribed to this list, and Jarek is not subscribed, so please include him in cc if you reply. Thanks.) Sumana Harihareswara Volunteer Development Coordinator Wikimedia Foundation From: *Tuszynski, Jaroslaw W.* <JAROSLAW.W.TUSZYNSKI(a)saic.com> Date: 2011/9/12 Hi, I am not sure how many of you are familiar with "Vorlage:Normdaten" template on German Wikipedia or "template:Authority control" on English, but it is a mechanism to add metadata to biographical articles which provide links to catalogs of some major libraries (US Library of Congress and German National Library) and online catalogs with links to even more libraries. German Wikipedia has over 171,000 of those and English wiki about 1,700. Lately, I was working on adding similar templates to Categories and Galleries on Commons, I added about 13,000 by now and expect to have about 20,000 by the end of the week. I think those templates have a lot of potential: 1) They link articles and categories to library catalogs and additional information about people 2) They help with disambiguation problem 3) I think I heard that it also allow some library catalogs (German National Library ?) to link back to Wikipedia articles 4) I think this might help in future mass uploads to help find correct categories on Commons or articles on Wikipedias, since name is not always the best way to find someone. Lately I was trying to link couple thousand painters from http://www.wga.hu/ with categories on Commons and there seem to be no easy way to do it. 5) Those might be especially powerful when combined with QRpedia. I think we should use this template more widely, especially on EN Wikipedia, Wikisource and other Wikipedias and possibly use it more in GLAM context. Jarek Jarosław Tuszyński (user:Jarekt) ..... I was adding Authority_control template<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Authority_control>which is based on German Normdaten <http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vorlage:Normdaten> template to categories and articles on Commons. See for example Category:Charles_Fourier<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Charles_Fourier>. The template parameters were copied from German Wikipedia articles whenever I could link them through interwiki links (aka inter-language links). It is unclear what Info pages<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Info_pages>were since the effort was abandoned and there are very few of those pages. More successful effort focused on creation of creator templates<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Creator_templates>based on creator:template <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Creator>. We have about 9,000 of them mostly for artists and writers. Those templates should be fully internationalized (show all text in language of the user). Current version of that template supports PND, LCCN and VIAF codes, and calls Authority_control template<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Authority_control>. See for example Creator:Leonardo_da_Vinci<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Creator:Leonardo_da_Vinci>, and I will be adding those parameters to many more. ** ..... Yes and no. there are "only" 9,000 creator templates, while we have 113,000 subcategories in Category:People by name<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:People_by_name>. I will be adding " Authority control" data to creator templates<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Creator_templates>, which are transcluded in the categories for that person. However that will cover probably less than 10% of People categories. The rest was (and will be) getting an Authority_control template<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Authority_control>directly. .... I can add “NARA” parameter to Authority_control template<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Authority_control>and creator:template <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Creator>. However I do not know how to look up those Author IDs. For example I can link to<http://arcweb.archives.gov/arc/action/ExternalPersonIdSearch?id=1332556> *Ansel Adams record with it s ID: 1332556. But I do not know if there is a way to look up this ID, if I know the name. Or is there a way to search NARA using Library of Congress ID (for Ansel Adams it is n79056359<http://id.loc.gov/authorities/names/n79056359.html>) ? Without easy way to look it up or ability to download large volume of names with ID’s, this parameter might be rarely used. * * * *Jarek* *(user:jarekt)*

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Re: [Commons-l] 86% of german users disagree with the introduction of the personal image filter
by Liesel 16 Sep '11

16 Sep '11

Your stupid! Am 16.09.2011 12:39, schrieb emijrp: > Hi all; > > There are more issues with images in German Wikipedia. > > It is funny how German Wikipedia doesn't allow images[1] (image added by > me[2] in de:, and later removed by other[3]) because they follow the most > restrictive copyright law from Germany, Austria and Switzerland[note 1], but > they are now against giving people the choice to hide images. > > I think that we can do a nice move here. We can enable image filter in > German Wikipedia for all those who don't want to see > copyrighted-images-for-German-law, meanwhile allowing other people to see > all Commons splendour. Using the image filter to improve the rights of > readers of German Wikipedia. Very cool, right? ; ) > > Regards, > emijrp > > [1] > http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bildrechte#Wikipedia_richtet_sich_na… > [2] http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alexander_Knox&oldid=81377280 > [3] http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Knox > > [note 1] I heard there are German speaking users outside Europe, right? I > heard too that, from Germany, you can follow interwiki and see that images > in other Wikipedias, right? So, what is the sense of that policy? Are not > the servers in USA? > > 2011/9/16 Tobias Oelgarte <tobias.oelgarte(a)googlemail.com> > >> Dear readers >> >> Yesterday, on September 15th 2011, the German Wikipedia closed the poll >> (Meinungsbild) "Einführung persönlicher Bildfilter". [1] It asked the >> question if the personal image filter can be introduced or if it should >> not be introduced. >> >> A strong majority of 86% percent voted to not allow the personal image >> filter [2] , despite the fact that the board already decided to >> introduce the feature. >> >> The questions are: >> * Will the board or the WMF proceed with the introduction of the >> personal image filter against the will of it's second largest community? >> * If the WMF/board does not care about the first question. Will it >> affect the way the personal image filter will be implemented? For >> example: Not for all projects. A different implementation as suggested >> inside the "image filter referendum". >> * Will there be an attempt to follow this example and to question other >> communities the same question? >> >> Greetings from >> Tobias Oelgarte >> >> [1] >> >> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meinungsbilder/Einf%C3%BChrung_pers%… >> [2] >> >> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meinungsbilder/Einf%C3%BChrung_pers%… >> >> _______________________________________________ >> foundation-l mailing list >> foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l >> > _______________________________________________ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l >

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CC by-sa upheld in Germany, over a Commons photo
by David Gerard 15 Sep '11

15 Sep '11

http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/28644 FLAWLESS VICTORY! [*] - d. [*] I expect Geni to be along in a moment picking holes in this statement.

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Voting for Steward Elections is underway
by Jyothis E 15 Sep '11

15 Sep '11

Hello, Please note that voting for the second steward elections for 2011 has started in metawiki<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Stewards/elections_2011-2>. Please read the candidate statements, Q&A and cast your vote at the earliest. Thanks. Regards, Jyothis. My Malayalam Wikipedia page <http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jyothis> Metawiki page <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jyothis> My toolserver tools <http://toolserver.org/~jyothis>

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