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| Leuo | Hi, after studying the FAQ I am still puzzled and would need some advice on the following question: I am writing a by-nc-sa document (a PDF). Everything in there so far is 100% my work. Now I would like to add some illustration images. If I grab a picture from wikimedia that is by-sa and embed it as-is (no modifications) and of course attribute the creator of the image, do I then create a "combined work", and would have to put everthing unde | 14:20 |
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| Leuo | r the less-restricting by-sa of the image? Or could I declare only my text to be the work under by-nc-sa and have the images just next to them in their own, original licence? | 14:20 |
| Leuo | Any pointers to (qualified) websites or mailinglist posts that discuss this? | 14:21 |
| Leuo | i found some discussion about related issues, but no exact match so far | 14:23 |
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| greg-g | no one from science commosn here, eh? | 14:54 |
| greg-g | Leuo: most people just include the image and consider that a "collection" under the terms of the license. | 14:56 |
| greg-g | see the first two definitions here: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/legalcode | 14:56 |
| greg-g | not the most cut-and-dry, but that is the standard practice, I believe. | 14:56 |
| Leuo | i've read about the collections too, and they confuse me even more ;) | 14:56 |
| greg-g | HOWEVER, the author of the work might think differently and I would encourage the use of the by-sa license over by-nc-sa for personal reasons, but that is just me | 14:57 |
| Leuo | thing is, they sould collect "multiple" things. but what if i only have one source, am i still a collection? I guess collections are aimed for magazines, newspapers and such | 14:57 |
| greg-g | and, it just has to be said, IANAL and this is not legal advice | 14:57 |
| Leuo | of course, i do not consider this legal council ;) i am just looking for pointers | 14:57 |
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| greg-g | :) cool | 14:57 |
| Leuo | in my case (rules for a game) i might also use open licences more crafted for this (e.g. OGL), but i'd really understand that part in the CC, too. | 14:59 |
| Leuo | do "science commons" people have this issue, too? | 14:59 |
| Leuo | e.g. in scientific papers? | 15:00 |
| greg-g | Leuo: no, I was just looking for someone to talk to about one of their blog posts :) | 15:03 |
| greg-g | and then saw your question | 15:03 |
| Leuo | ah, understood | 15:05 |
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| foobar | hello | 18:30 |
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| jed_ | paroneayea: google "ascii art" | 19:01 |
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| paroneayea | JED3: niiiiiice | 19:02 |
| JED3 | ha i stumbled on that easter egg while looking for the netcat ascii cat | 19:02 |
| akozak | haha thats cool | 19:02 |
| JED3 | paroneayea: may i ask a quick question? | 19:08 |
| paroneayea | JED3: sure | 19:09 |
| paroneayea | also, unrelated, but… http://paste.pocoo.org/ http://dev.pocoo.org/projects/ | 19:11 |
| paroneayea | that's a pretty awesome lookin pastebin. | 19:12 |
| JED3 | ahh well i believe i just answered mostly of what i was about to ask, but i'll ask anyway. are the key names of the work_dicts in the formatters derived from the old cc.engine? | 19:12 |
| paroneayea | yes :) | 19:12 |
| JED3 | ahh okay | 19:13 |
| JED3 | title, worktitle, and work_title are all valid arguments for the same variable in the new REST API | 19:14 |
| JED3 | kind of silly :/ | 19:14 |
| paroneayea | I think at some point nathany said "all these work_info arguemnts may look complex and silly to support, but we need to support them" | 19:15 |
| paroneayea | so I just did what was necessary to port it over mostly as-is :) | 19:15 |
| JED3 | hmm okay, cool with me | 19:15 |
| JED3 | i'll just choose to accept "title" and build a liberal dict with all the keys before calling the formatter | 19:16 |
| JED3 | paroneayea: also, just so i'm clear, what is the selector string for CC0? | 19:16 |
| paroneayea | I don't know, I haven't used the selectors :) | 19:17 |
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| JED3 | paroneayea: okay do you know what the "code" is for CC0? | 19:23 |
| JED3 | as in the license code? | 19:23 |
| paroneayea | CC0 | 19:23 |
| paroneayea | that's determined by the <dc:identifier>CC0</dc:identifier> field | 19:23 |
| paroneayea | so if you're looking for such things you can always scrape the RDF files | 19:24 |
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| nathany | nkinkade, JED3, paroneayea: would we be able to push our call back 1 hour (230 pacific), or would that make it too late for you guys? | 20:20 |
| paroneayea | nathany: fine by me | 20:20 |
| nkinkade | nathany: That works for me. | 20:20 |
| JED3 | nathany: aye | 20:21 |
| nathany | great, thanks | 20:21 |
| nathany | paulproteus, ping | 20:41 |
| paulproteus | nathany: pong! | 20:41 |
| paulproteus | My computer (and my life) have somewhat high load average. | 20:41 |
| nathany | :) | 20:41 |
| nathany | got it; just wanted to make sure you saw jen yip's email re: W9 | 20:41 |
| paulproteus | Yup. I'll send that to you by tomorrow morning. | 20:42 |
| nathany | awesome, thanks | 20:42 |
| paulproteus | (-: | 20:43 |
| JED3 | nathany: you once sent me a link to a chart of SPARQL completeness of various libraries, will you send me that link again plz? | 21:03 |
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| mralex | nkinkade: so is the google checkout enabled OneClickDonate.php live on Support? | 21:41 |
| nkinkade | mralex: Not yet. | 21:41 |
| nkinkade | mralex: I guess we can launch it. A week or so ago (before the new buttons) I ran a few test in the GC sandbox and everything seemed fine. | 21:43 |
| nkinkade | Are you ready to push your changes to the popup live? | 21:43 |
| mralex | almost | 21:43 |
| nkinkade | mralex: I'll go ahead and get the updates for GC support to the live site. I'll let you know when they are ready. | 21:45 |
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| nkinkade | mralex: The new GC-enabled one-click scripts are in place on the live site. | 22:24 |
| mralex | nkinkade: great, and I just got all my changes wrapped up in git. | 22:25 |
| nkinkade | Outside of the visual differences to the popup you'll just need to make sure that it passes along &pp= | 22:25 |
| nkinkade | For the moment if it doesn't see &pp= it will just send the user to PayPal. | 22:26 |
| paroneayea | ohshi | 22:32 |
| paroneayea | meeting time rite? | 22:32 |
| paroneayea | what conference room? | 22:32 |
| paroneayea | nkinkade, JED3, nathany: ^^ | 22:33 |
| JED3 | paroneayea: #4 | 22:33 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: ^^^ | 22:33 |
| nkinkade | Right now? | 22:33 |
| JED3 | dialing in now | 22:33 |
| paroneayea | ok, cool | 22:34 |
| paroneayea | nkinkade: seems so! | 22:34 |
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| mralex | nathany: another "status board" concept from last year, http://alexbogusky.posterous.com/deep-in-the-bowels-of-cpb-0 | 23:19 |
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