activating wiki-style Links

[EricEWeir]

I have converted my Obsidian links to wiki-style. As I can access files in my Obsidian vault with vim I would like to activate wiki-style links in wiki.vim.

I tried unsuccessfully to figure out how to do this from the wiki.vim code. I sought help with it from Claude. Claude identified some seemingly relevant code. It was not much help to me in getting wiki-style links. Perhaps the code we identified is inappropriate. In any case this is what I have in my .vimrc:

let g:wiki_filetypes = ['md']
let g:wiki_link_target_type = 'wiki'
let g:wiki_link_extension = '.md'
"let g:wiki_map_create_page = 1
let g:wiki_link_creation = {
      \ 'wiki': {
      \   'link_type': 'wiki',
      \   'url_extension': '.md',
      \ },
      \}

I have tried commenting out various combinations of the first four lines. I was able to get markdown style links but not wiki-style.

Once again I need help with something that presents no difficulty to others.

[lervag]

I have converted my Obsidian links to wiki-style.

Could you give an example of what this means?

As I can access files in my Obsidian vault with vim I would like to activate wiki-style links in wiki.vim.

Can you explain what you mean by this? I assume wiki-style links are [[url]] and [[url|description]], right? But what do you mean by "activate" here?

I tried unsuccessfully to figure out how to do this from the wiki.vim code. I sought help with it from Claude. Claude identified some seemingly relevant code. It was not much help to me in getting wiki-style links. Perhaps the code we identified is inappropriate. In any case this is what I have in my .vimrc: …

Well, first, you can remove the g:wiki_link_target_type and g:wiki_link_extension` options, because they are both deprecated and irrelevant.

Next, it seems you've misunderstood the g:wiki_link_creation option. I believe your wiki is based on files with the .md extension, right? So, if you want to change how links are created with the link toggle mapping (mapped to <cr>, i.e. the RETURN key, by default), then you want to set the 'md' key. That is, I think you want to change the content in your .vimrc file to this:

let g:wiki_filetypes = ['md']
let g:wiki_link_creation = {
      \ 'md': {
      \   'link_type': 'wiki',
      \   'url_extension': '.md',
      \ },
      \}

[EricEWeir]

I have converted my Obsidian links to wiki-style.

Could you give an example of what this means?

I don't know what it would mean to give here an example of converting my Obsidian links to wiki-style. Can I just say that in Obsidian I am now using wiki-style links instead of markdown-style links?

As I can access files in my Obsidian vault with vim I would like to activate wiki-style links in wiki.vim.

Can you explain what you mean by this? I assume wiki-style links are [[url]] and [[url|description]], right? But what do you mean by "activate" here?

Yes, that is what I mean by wiki-style links. By "activate" I mean that I would like to configure wiki.vim so that when links are created, i.e., by selecting text then doing <cr> on it, they are wiki-style instead of markdown-style.

I tried unsuccessfully to figure out how to do this from the wiki.vim code. I sought help with it from Claude. Claude identified some seemingly relevant code. It was not much help to me in getting wiki-style links. Perhaps the code we identified is inappropriate. In any case this is what I have in my .vimrc: …

Well, first, you can remove the g:wiki_link_target_type and g:wiki_link_extension` options, because they are both deprecated and irrelevant.

Thank you. Done

Next, it seems you've misunderstood the g:wiki_link_creation option. I believe your wiki is based on files with the .md extension, right? So, if you want to change how links are created with the link toggle mapping (mapped to <cr>, i.e. the RETURN key, by default), then you want to set the 'md' key. That is, I think you want to change the content in your .vimrc file to this:

let g:wiki_filetypes = ['md']
let g:wiki_link_creation = {
\ 'md': {
\ 'link_type': 'wiki',
\ 'url_extension': '.md',
\ },
}

I would not say I "misunderstood." It's more a matter of not understanding at all. Bottom line, when I replaced what I had with the above I get wiki-style links with the description.

I was under the impression, wherefrom I don't know, that when the cursor is not on linked text, the link URL is not displayed, only when the cursor is on the linked text. Perhaps that is the case with markdown-style links? Short time ago, but I don't remember. Anyway, with wiki-style links, multiword links, and the link URL displayed whether the cursor is on it or not, the text of notes can get pretty cluttered.

Last, Obsidian syncs the top headers of notes and filenames, so that the filename is the top header without the hashmark and an extent added to it. Wiki.vim's way of accommodating this is to add [[#.md|#]] to the front of the top heading. Which adds a bit more clutter.

These last two are not things I am asking you to fix, though perhaps there are ready-made solutions that I have overlooked, or not understood. Otherwise they are just unaesthetic considerations in using vim with wiki.vim to edit Obsidian files, which is not what wiki.vim is intended for.

[lervag]

As I can access files in my Obsidian vault with vim I would like to activate wiki-style links in wiki.vim.

Can you explain what you mean by this? I assume wiki-style links are [[url]] and [[url|description]], right? But what do you mean by "activate" here?

Yes, that is what I mean by wiki-style links. By "activate" I mean that I would like to configure wiki.vim so that when links are created, i.e., by selecting text then doing <cr> on it, they are wiki-style instead of markdown-style.

Ah, this is a good description of what you want, thanks!

Next, it seems you've misunderstood the g:wiki_link_creation option. I believe your wiki is based on files with the .md extension, right? So, if you want to change how links are created with the link toggle mapping (mapped to <cr>, i.e. the RETURN key, by default), then you want to set the 'md' key. That is, I think you want to change the content in your .vimrc file to this:
let g:wiki_filetypes = ['md']
let g:wiki_link_creation = {
\ 'md': {
\ 'link_type': 'wiki',
\ 'url_extension': '.md',
\ },
}

I would not say I "misunderstood." It's more a matter of not understanding at all. Bottom line, when I replaced what I had with the above I get wiki-style links with the description.

And if I understood correctly, this is what you want, right? If not, can you show an example of what you get now and an example of what you want?

E.g. something like:

1. I select text and press <cr>
2. The text becomes [[......]]
3. I expected it to becomes [[.xxx..]]

I was under the impression, wherefrom I don't know, that when the cursor is not on linked text, the link URL is not displayed, only when the cursor is on the linked text.

This is not a wiki.vim feature. Vim has a feature called conceal (see :help conceal) that allows to conceal text by the syntax engine, which makes it possible to provide what you want, more or less. wiki-ft.vim uses this to make [[url|text]] display as text (and similar for other types of links). It requires some options like set conceallevel=2 and similar.

Last, Obsidian syncs the top headers of notes and filenames, so that the filename is the top header without the hashmark and an extent added to it.

Are you saying that, in Obsidian, if you change the header of the file, Obsidian will automatically change the filename as well?

Wiki.vim's way of accommodating this is to add [[#.md|#]] to the front of the top heading. Which adds a bit more clutter.

wiki.vim does not accommodate this at all, and to be honest I really don't understand what you mean here. wiki.vim does not add [[#.md|#]] anywhere? Can you explain in more detail and in explicit steps what you ar edoing here?

These last two are not things I am asking you to fix, though perhaps there are ready-made solutions that I have overlooked, or not understood. Otherwise they are just unaesthetic considerations in using vim with wiki.vim to edit Obsidian files, which is not what wiki.vim is intended for.

Obsidian files are just Markdown files, and wiki.vim is intended for working with Markdown files. ☺️