[css-fonts-4] font-presentation doesn't have a great name (rename to font-variant-emoji)

[litherum]

font-presentation doesn't have a great name.

For an initial proposal, I chose the name because that's what Unicode calls this stuff - "Presentation Styles". But maybe there is a better name.

[Crissov]

• font-glyph-design
• font-glyphs
• font-glyph-selection
• font-glyph-variation
• font-emoji
• font-pictogram
• font-picture
• font-pictorial
• font-symbol
• text-transform-emoji

[fantasai]

Just for context: “This property (font-presentation) allows web authors to select whether emoji presentation or text presentation is used for certain emoji code points.”

[patrickdark]

font-emoji or font-variant-emoji seem to be the most straightforward. Given that change, the value text might be better renamed to none even though text aligns with Unicode.

Anything that refers to "presentation" or "glyphs" is too generic since things like font-variant-east-asian could also fall under those descriptions.

[DeeDeeG]

emoji-presentation would be very similar to how this terminology is handled by Unicode on their site. Makes sense to me. (I am a bit biased after flipping through the Unicode documentation so much.)

e.g. emoji-presentation: text emoji-presentation: auto emoji-presentation: emoji

For places where Unicode has used this phrasing/terminology:
http://unicode.org/reports/tr51/#Emoji_Presentation
http://unicode.org/emoji/charts/emoji-variants.html
http://unicode.org/emoji/charts/text-style.html

Alternatives based on their (Unicode's) usage:

emoji-presentation-style, emoji-text-presentation

And on a different note, I give a +1 to font-variant-emoji which is both a very CSS way to do it, and pretty readable/intuitive for a person who has never seen it before.

[fantasai]

I'm gonna suggest font-iconography here!

[Crissov]

I prefer something with pictogram or pictograph(ic), or picture if you must.

[svgeesus]

+1 to font-variant-emoji

[Crissov]

Property-value combos like x-y: y; and x-y: x; always feel a bit strange. The values currently are auto | text |emoji.

[css-meeting-bot]

The CSS Working Group just discussed font-presentation doesn't have a great name, and agreed to the following resolutions:

• RESOLVED: property name is font-variant-emoji

There was also some discussions of what to name the value keywords, but no conclusion, so that issue was returned for further discussion in GitHub. Suggestions to replace text | emoji so far included color | monochrome , chromatic | monocolor, symbol | graphic, plain | graphic; more suggestions are welcome.

The full IRC log of that discussion

<dael> Topic: font-presentation doesn't have a great name
<dael> Github: https://github.com//issues/1092
<dael> Chris: It's if you present emoji as visual emoji or text.
<dael> Chris: There has been some discussion on this. Who wants to speak to this?
<dael> fantasai: There were suggestions in the issue. I think we should pick one.
<dael> Chris: Yes, tantek emoji are text, but you can present a smily face as a graphic or smily-face-emoji (or something like that) Unicode allows both.
<dael> TabAtkins: It's a monocolor glyph or a colored glyph for this.
<dbaron> I'd suggest maybe the property name isn't being very good at describing what this does...
<dael> Chris: Oh. THat's different actually. Unicode values are text and emoji which is wierd. Shouldn't it be chromatic and monocolor? I hand't got from text that it's black and white.
<leaverou> +1
<dael> Chris: dbaron agrees with me.
<dael> dbaron: I was thinking it was the name of the property.
<dael> Chris: It's the name of the property we're bikeshedding. There are various suggestions.
<dbaron> not the names of the values?
<dael> TabAtkins: I know someone suggested font-emoji. monochrome and color seem reasonable.
<dael> fantasai: If you have multi-color fonts they're not monochrome.
<leaverou> +1 for monochrome and color. monochrome is also consistent with the MQ value
<dael> TabAtkins: Truuuuuuuue. Are they painted like normal text or tiny images.
<dael> Chris: It's a strange way to present it.
<dael> Chris: If we have values that are monochrome and color it seems font-varient: emoji would be reasonable.
<dael> Chris: That's my personal pick.
<leaverou> what about symbol and graphic?
<dael> fantasai: Makes sense to me.
<fantasai> s/font-variant: emoji/font-variant-emoji/
<Chris> font-variant-emoji: monochrome | chromatic
<dael> fantasai: It's definitely better. Unless someone has a defferent prefence we should resolve.
<dael> TabAtkins: Property name is an improvement.
<tantek> agreed with the change to monochrome - much more descriptive than "text"
<dael> Chris: Support on property name, still discuss values.
<dael> Chris: leaverou suggested symbol and graphic
<dael> fantasai: I like that.
<dael> TabAtkins: I'm not sure I like symbol. Graphic or image is good for full color.
<tantek> line-art
<dael> leaverou: Line art and graphic?
<dael> TabAtkins: It could be fully filled pictures.
<dael> fantasai: Glyph vs graphic?
<dael> Chris: They're both glyphs.
<dael> leaverou: Rich and plain?
<dauwhe> plain and fancy :)
<dael> TabAtkins: Plain's not back.
<dael> TabAtkins: plain and image maybe.
<dbaron> s/back/bad/
<dael> s/back/bad
<dael> TabAtkins: We have ideas. We can continue value name in the thread.
<dael> Chris: Let's resolve on property and leave values for bikeshedding.
<dael> RESOLVED: property name is font-variant-emoji

[patrickdark]

I've used the terms "chromatic" and "monochromatic" for this dichotomy before. Then I decided it wasn't a good idea since some emoji can be one color. The Symbols block of Noto Color Emoji provides some good examples of monochrome emoji: https://www.google.com/get/noto/help/emoji/symbols.html.

A lot of people don't realize that arrows and media playback buttons can also be emoji or that some emoji can be achromatic (e.g., Yin Yang). (Yin Yang is inexplicably purple in Segoe UI Emoji though.)

IMO, the suggestion of "plain" is better than "text". "sans-emoji" is another alternative.

As for the other keyword, if "emoji" is already in the (new) property name, it seems most consistent to leave that keyword as is.

[tabatkins]

Then I decided it wasn't a good idea since some emoji can be one color.

Not only that, with paletted fonts, the "text" emoji can be multicolor too. ^_^ The distinction really is "does it get painted like text (and respond to 'color')" or "does it get painted like an image", thus the current names. ^_^