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  • Eric Jarvis

    Re: Which version in LH for?

    Alan J. Flavell wrote:[color=blue]
    > On Thu, Aug 14, Eric Jarvis inscribed on the eternal scroll:
    >[color=green]
    > > the correct spilling is "supercede"[/color]
    >
    > Those who choose to get involved in spelling disputes would be
    > well advised to consult a reliable dictionary first!
    >
    > Your spelling was once an alternative, but is now considered
    > incorrect. Etymology "super"=abo ve + "sedere" = to sit.
    >[/color]

    interesting...I need to talk to my spellchecker which
    balks at the wrong version

    --
    eric

    "Hey Lord don't ask me questions
    There ain't no answer in me"

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    • Alan J. Flavell

      Re: Which version in LH for?

      On Thu, Aug 14, Harlan Messinger inscribed on the eternal scroll:

      [OED:][color=blue][color=green]
      > > A parenthetical insertion used in printing quotations or reported
      > > utterances to call attention to something anomalous or erroneous in
      > > the original, or to guard against the supposition of misquotation.[/color]
      >
      > I understand both parts of this to refer to the same circumstance.[/color]

      Well, with respect, I don't.
      [color=blue]
      > If you
      > are quoting something with an incorrect spelling or even a mistake of fact,
      > you can write "[sic]" either to highlight the mistake[/color]

      yesyes, this part is not in dispute...
      [color=blue]
      > or, as the OED says, and as I stated
      > before, to keep people from thinking the mistake is yours, introduced by
      > misquoting what had originally been written correctly.[/color]

      While it's true that the word 'or' can be used to separate alternative
      ways of expressing the same concept, I'd have to disagree that this is
      what's happening here. In this case it's separating two distinct
      usages of the term ('sic'). In either case, it means "what I'm
      quoting is an accurate quote", but in the one case the point is
      stressed because the original was wrong, whereas in the other case the
      point is stressed because there's a worry that the reader will suppose
      that the original is wrong, when in fact it's right.

      I don't much visit a.u.e these days, sorry.

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      • Jane Withnolastname

        Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Which version in LH for?

        On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 06:34:00 -0400, "EightNineThree "
        <eightninethree @REMOVEeightnin ethree.com> wrote:
        [color=blue]
        >ok, just a little advice -
        >
        >If someone says "Designing for just one browser is a bad idea"
        >Don't post a list of shitty websites as an example of the practice.
        >It further demonstrates their point, not yours.[/color]

        Well, if I had been responding to someone who said that "designing for
        just one browser is a bad idea" with a list of shitty websites, you
        might have a point. As it was, I was responding to someone who claimed
        he had never seen a site that was optimized for IE. The list was of
        sites optimized for IE. Not a list of fantastic sites showing how
        wonderful it would be if everyone used just one browser.
        In fact, I believe the person requesting this list does not even have
        IE on his computer and may not be able to have it due to the OS he is
        using, though of course that is all inferred by me from his posts. I
        could be completely wrong.
        In short, I would advise that you actually read posts and the context
        in which they are posted before replying. Thanks :)

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        • Jane Withnolastname

          Re: Re: Which version in LH for?

          On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 22:25:43 +0200, "Alan J. Flavell"
          <flavell@mail.c ern.ch> wrote:
          [color=blue]
          >On Thu, Aug 14, Harlan Messinger inscribed on the eternal scroll:
          >
          >[OED:][color=green][color=darkred]
          >> > A parenthetical insertion used in printing quotations or reported
          >> > utterances to call attention to something anomalous or erroneous in
          >> > the original, or to guard against the supposition of misquotation.[/color]
          >>
          >> I understand both parts of this to refer to the same circumstance.[/color]
          >
          >Well, with respect, I don't.
          >[color=green]
          >> If you
          >> are quoting something with an incorrect spelling or even a mistake of fact,
          >> you can write "[sic]" either to highlight the mistake[/color]
          >
          >yesyes, this part is not in dispute...
          >[color=green]
          >> or, as the OED says, and as I stated
          >> before, to keep people from thinking the mistake is yours, introduced by
          >> misquoting what had originally been written correctly.[/color]
          >
          >While it's true that the word 'or' can be used to separate alternative
          >ways of expressing the same concept, I'd have to disagree that this is
          >what's happening here. In this case it's separating two distinct
          >usages of the term ('sic'). In either case, it means "what I'm
          >quoting is an accurate quote", but in the one case the point is
          >stressed because the original was wrong, whereas in the other case the
          >point is stressed because there's a worry that the reader will suppose
          >that the original is wrong, when in fact it's right.
          >
          >I don't much visit a.u.e these days, sorry.[/color]

          Wow, you folks will argue about anything, huh?

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          • Tim

            Re: Which version in LH for?

            On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 08:25:53 +0200,
            Leif B. Kristensen <leifkris@alfan ett.no> wrote:
            [color=blue]
            > Apart from that, I had to turn down over 50 (!) third-party cookies from
            > the site.[/color]

            Isn't that two spec violations? (Third party, and that many.)

            --
            My "from" address is totally fake. (Hint: If I wanted e-mails from
            complete strangers, I'd have put a real one, there.) Reply to usenet
            postings in the same place as you read the message you're replying to.

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            • Tim

              Re: Which version in LH for?

              On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 16:45:18 +0000 (UTC),
              "Jukka K. Korpela" <jkorpela@cs.tu t.fi> wrote:
              [color=blue]
              > ObHTML: in HTML I should probably write
              > (<span lang="la" title=
              > "(the preceding expression is intentionally so written)">sic</span>)
              > even at the risk of making a speech browser read "sic" correctly by
              > classical pronunciation (with a long i, roughly as "seek") and thereby
              > causing potential problems in understandabili ty.[/color]

              Just curious, but I thought that no-one knew how Latin was supposed to
              be pronounced.

              --
              My "from" address is totally fake. (Hint: If I wanted e-mails from
              complete strangers, I'd have put a real one, there.) Reply to usenet
              postings in the same place as you read the message you're replying to.

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              • Jane Withnolastname

                Re: Re: Which version in LH for?

                On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 22:38:07 GMT, Brian
                <usenet1@mangym utt.com.invalid-remove-this-part> wrote:
                [color=blue]
                >Jane Withnolastname wrote:[color=green]
                >>
                >> I think this must be the most asked - AND ANSWERED - question. I came
                >> to ask a simple question. I got a simple answer. I even got some bonus
                >> advice, which I expressed appropriate gratitude for. Then everybody
                >> pounced on me and won't let me leave.[/color]
                >
                >"won't let you leave?" Do you have no off switch on your computer?[/color]

                No, actually, I don't. There's a Power switch, but it's not used for
                turning it off.

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                • Jane Withnolastname

                  Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Which version in LH for?

                  On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 20:44:32 -0500, "Shawn K. Quinn"
                  <skquinn@xeviou s.kicks-ass.net> wrote:
                  [color=blue]
                  >Jane Withnolastname <janewithnolast name@yahoo.com> wrote:
                  >[color=green]
                  >> On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 01:05:36 -0500, John <jcliff@email.c om>
                  >> wrote:[color=darkred]
                  >>>What's your site's URL?[/color]
                  >>
                  >> I will repeat:
                  >>
                  >> The reason I will not post the URL is because I am not interested in
                  >> hundreds of meaningless hits that could end up knocking my site
                  >> offline for a time, thereby preventing it from being seen by people
                  >> who actually *want* to see it.[/color]
                  >
                  >Any decent server will be able to take a few hundred hits. It's not like
                  >this is Slashdot or something.[/color]

                  Ah, well, it's a lame excuse, obviously.
                  The point is, even if I had a perfectly perfect site that worked on
                  every browser available (which is impossible, but this is a
                  hypothetical situation) and the site had won every award worth
                  winning, for site design and who knows what else they give out awards
                  for, I *still* would not post the URL here. Ever.
                  Maybe it's irrational (sure it is) but I have absolutely no reason for
                  this. You should be used to my irrational thought processes by now.
                  Get over it.

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                  • Jane Withnolastname

                    Re: Re: Re: Which version in LH for?

                    On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 09:03:14 +0100, "William Tasso" <ngx@tbdata.com >
                    wrote:
                    [color=blue]
                    >Jane Withnolastname wrote:[color=green]
                    >> On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 22:25:43 +0200, "Alan J. Flavell"
                    >> <flavell@mail.c ern.ch> wrote:
                    >>[color=darkred]
                    >>> On Thu, Aug 14, Harlan Messinger inscribed on the eternal scroll:
                    >>>
                    >>> [OED:]
                    >>>>> A parenthetical insertion used in printing quotations or reported
                    >>>>> utterances to call attention to something anomalous or erroneous
                    >>>>> in the original, or to guard against the supposition of
                    >>>>> misquotation.
                    >>>>
                    >>>> I understand both parts of this to refer to the same circumstance.
                    >>>
                    >>> Well, with respect, I don't.
                    >>>
                    >>>> If you
                    >>>> are quoting something with an incorrect spelling or even a mistake
                    >>>> of fact, you can write "[sic]" either to highlight the mistake
                    >>>
                    >>> yesyes, this part is not in dispute...
                    >>>
                    >>>> or, as the OED says, and as I stated
                    >>>> before, to keep people from thinking the mistake is yours,
                    >>>> introduced by misquoting what had originally been written correctly.
                    >>> ...[/color]
                    >>
                    >> Wow, you folks will argue about anything, huh?[/color]
                    >
                    >aww shucks - they're just trying to help you feel 'at home'[/color]

                    They weren't even talking to me. I had nothing to do with that
                    whatsoever. And, for the record, I didn't start the initial argument
                    in this thread.

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                    • EightNineThree

                      Re: Re: Which version in LH for?


                      "Jane Withnolastname" <JaneWithnolast nameNOSPAM@yaho o.com> wrote in message
                      news:b2irjvg289 f9enohv9cv0ttof hcgagqq8h@4ax.c om...[color=blue]
                      > On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 22:38:07 GMT, Brian
                      > <usenet1@mangym utt.com.invalid-remove-this-part> wrote:
                      >[color=green]
                      > >Jane Withnolastname wrote:[color=darkred]
                      > >>
                      > >> I think this must be the most asked - AND ANSWERED - question. I came
                      > >> to ask a simple question. I got a simple answer. I even got some bonus
                      > >> advice, which I expressed appropriate gratitude for. Then everybody
                      > >> pounced on me and won't let me leave.[/color]
                      > >
                      > >"won't let you leave?" Do you have no off switch on your computer?[/color]
                      >
                      > No, actually, I don't. There's a Power switch, but it's not used for
                      > turning it off.[/color]

                      Try it some time.
                      In fact, there's also this nifty cord that goes from the back of the
                      computer and the wall.
                      Pull it out from either end.


                      --
                      Karl Core

                      Charles Sweeney says my sig is fine as it is.


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                      • William Tasso

                        Re: Re: Which version in LH for?

                        EightNineThree wrote:[color=blue]
                        > "Jane Withnolastname" <JaneWithnolast nameNOSPAM@yaho o.com> wrote in
                        > message news:b2irjvg289 f9enohv9cv0ttof hcgagqq8h@4ax.c om...[color=green]
                        >> On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 22:38:07 GMT, Brian
                        >> <usenet1@mangym utt.com.invalid-remove-this-part> wrote:
                        >>[color=darkred]
                        >>> Jane Withnolastname wrote:
                        >>>> ...
                        >>>> Then everybody pounced on me and won't let me leave.
                        >>>
                        >>> "won't let you leave?" Do you have no off switch on your computer?[/color]
                        >>
                        >> No, actually, I don't. There's a Power switch, but it's not used for
                        >> turning it off.[/color]
                        >
                        > Try it some time.
                        > In fact, there's also this nifty cord that goes from the back of the
                        > computer and the wall.
                        > Pull it out from either end.[/color]

                        he hee - I feel another BOFH thread coming ;o)

                        --
                        William Tasso - http://WilliamTasso.com


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                        • Jane Withnolastname

                          Re: Re: Re: Which version in LH for?

                          On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 07:07:19 -0400, "EightNineThree "
                          <eightninethree @REMOVEeightnin ethree.com> wrote:
                          [color=blue]
                          >
                          >"Jane Withnolastname" <JaneWithnolast nameNOSPAM@yaho o.com> wrote in message
                          >news:b2irjvg28 9f9enohv9cv0tto fhcgagqq8h@4ax. com...[color=green]
                          >> On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 22:38:07 GMT, Brian
                          >> <usenet1@mangym utt.com.invalid-remove-this-part> wrote:
                          >>[color=darkred]
                          >> >Jane Withnolastname wrote:
                          >> >>
                          >> >> I think this must be the most asked - AND ANSWERED - question. I came
                          >> >> to ask a simple question. I got a simple answer. I even got some bonus
                          >> >> advice, which I expressed appropriate gratitude for. Then everybody
                          >> >> pounced on me and won't let me leave.
                          >> >
                          >> >"won't let you leave?" Do you have no off switch on your computer?[/color]
                          >>
                          >> No, actually, I don't. There's a Power switch, but it's not used for
                          >> turning it off.[/color]
                          >
                          >Try it some time.
                          >In fact, there's also this nifty cord that goes from the back of the
                          >computer and the wall.
                          >Pull it out from either end.[/color]

                          Why, exactly, would I do that when there are much easier ways of
                          turning off my computer?

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                          • EightNineThree

                            Re: Re: Re: Which version in LH for?


                            "Jane Withnolastname" <JaneWithnolast nameNOSPAM@yaho o.com> wrote in message
                            news:aeeujvgnac 7uf704f6u069m40 v1u66i422@4ax.c om...[color=blue]
                            > On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 07:07:19 -0400, "EightNineThree "
                            > <eightninethree @REMOVEeightnin ethree.com> wrote:
                            >[color=green]
                            > >
                            > >"Jane Withnolastname" <JaneWithnolast nameNOSPAM@yaho o.com> wrote in[/color][/color]
                            message[color=blue][color=green]
                            > >news:b2irjvg28 9f9enohv9cv0tto fhcgagqq8h@4ax. com...[color=darkred]
                            > >> On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 22:38:07 GMT, Brian
                            > >> <usenet1@mangym utt.com.invalid-remove-this-part> wrote:
                            > >>
                            > >> >Jane Withnolastname wrote:
                            > >> >>
                            > >> >> I think this must be the most asked - AND ANSWERED - question. I[/color][/color][/color]
                            came[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
                            > >> >> to ask a simple question. I got a simple answer. I even got some[/color][/color][/color]
                            bonus[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
                            > >> >> advice, which I expressed appropriate gratitude for. Then everybody
                            > >> >> pounced on me and won't let me leave.
                            > >> >
                            > >> >"won't let you leave?" Do you have no off switch on your computer?
                            > >>
                            > >> No, actually, I don't. There's a Power switch, but it's not used for
                            > >> turning it off.[/color]
                            > >
                            > >Try it some time.
                            > >In fact, there's also this nifty cord that goes from the back of the
                            > >computer and the wall.
                            > >Pull it out from either end.[/color]
                            >
                            > Why, exactly, would I do that when there are much easier ways of
                            > turning off my computer?[/color]

                            Listen to the expert here. Its time you give respect where it is due and
                            follow the simple instructions I have given.
                            I will give them in more detail here.
                            1. There is a thick cord in the back of your computer. It is most likely
                            thicker than all of the others. It is also most likely grey, black, or even
                            a peach/ tan color. This cord is connected to your computer on one end and a
                            wall socket on the other.
                            2. Once you have located the cord, take a firm grasp upon it.
                            3. Pull VERY HARD in any direction you would like. Use your legs for more
                            power, as the leg muscles are the strongest in your body.
                            4. If you've done this right, you've unplugged the cord from both the wall
                            and the computer. This is good.
                            5. Now, in preparation for the next time you use your computer, find a fork,
                            knife, scissors or other sharp, pointed, metal object and make sure there
                            are no obstructions in the wall socket by sticking the implement into it and
                            moving it around.

                            You should be all set! HTH!


                            --
                            Karl Core

                            Inspired by Mr. Tasso's BOFH comment


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                            • Jane Withnolastname

                              Re: Re: Re: Re: Which version in LH for?

                              On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 09:07:12 -0400, "EightNineThree "
                              <eightninethree @REMOVEeightnin ethree.com> wrote:
                              [color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
                              >> >In fact, there's also this nifty cord that goes from the back of the
                              >> >computer and the wall.
                              >> >Pull it out from either end.[/color]
                              >>
                              >> Why, exactly, would I do that when there are much easier ways of
                              >> turning off my computer?[/color]
                              >
                              >Listen to the expert here. Its time you give respect where it is due and
                              >follow the simple instructions I have given.
                              >I will give them in more detail here.
                              >1. There is a thick cord in the back of your computer. It is most likely
                              >thicker than all of the others. It is also most likely grey, black, or even
                              >a peach/ tan color. This cord is connected to your computer on one end and a
                              >wall socket on the other.
                              >2. Once you have located the cord, take a firm grasp upon it.
                              >3. Pull VERY HARD in any direction you would like. Use your legs for more
                              >power, as the leg muscles are the strongest in your body.
                              >4. If you've done this right, you've unplugged the cord from both the wall
                              >and the computer. This is good.
                              >5. Now, in preparation for the next time you use your computer, find a fork,
                              >knife, scissors or other sharp, pointed, metal object and make sure there
                              >are no obstructions in the wall socket by sticking the implement into it and
                              >moving it around.
                              >
                              >You should be all set! HTH![/color]

                              Uh, yeah, I know how to unplug a computer. My question was, why would
                              I want to?

                              EightNineThree "... is most likely thicker than all of the others."

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